During their meeting in Washington, President Trump and NATOSecretary General Stoltenberg recognized the progress the Alliance has made on increased burden sharing and the fight against terrorism. More work is left to do to so that all Allies meet the defense investment pledge made at the 2014 Wales Summit, which will ensure we are able to address global challenges and keep our citizens safe and secure.

“Today, the United States reaffirms our commitment to Article 5 and themutual defense pact. We renew our call on nations to demonstrate their commitment to the Alliance through their actions, including by increasing their defense contributions under the Article 3 requirement for preparedness and military capacity.” – President Trump

Oval Office

1:47 P.M. EDT

PRESIDENT TRUMP:  Thank you very much.  It’s an honor to have Secretary General Stoltenberg with us.

NATO has been working very closely with the United States.  Our relationship is very good.  Together, we’ve increased and, really, raised a lot of money from countries that weren’t paying or weren’t paying a fair share.  We have a little ways to go, but many billions of dollars of additional money has been raised.

And I really appreciate the great job that you’re doing.  As most people know, you’ve been extended for a long period of time, and I was very much at — I think with my leadership and — really, the fact is, we pushed it very hard because this gentleman does a tremendous job at NATO.  And I appreciate it.

Thank you.  Thank you very much, Mr. Secretary.

SECRETARY GENERAL STOLTENBERG:  Thank you so much.  Thank you so much, Mr. President, for hosting me and my delegation once again here at the White House.  And let me thank you for the leadership you show on the issue of defense spending because it is very important that we all contribute more to our shared security.  And it is really having an impact because, as you said, allies are now spending more on defense.  All allies are increasing their defense budgets.

PRESIDENT TRUMP:  Do you give me credit for that?

SECRETARY GENERAL STOLTENBERG:  You have helped to do that because your leadership has been important, and it has had a real impact.  And we see that because all allies increased and they add billions to their budget.  So that’s important because we live in a more unpredictable world, and then we need strong NATO, and we need to invest more in our security.

PRESIDENT TRUMP:  Well, thank you very much for being here.  It’s an honor.

Q    Mr. President, on North Korea — can I ask you a question about North Korea?

PRESIDENT TRUMP:  Well, nothing has changed on North Korea that we know of.  We have not been told anything.  And if it does, that’s fine.  If it doesn’t, I think we’ll probably have a very successful meeting.  But we have not been told anything.  We’re just reading stories like you are.  We’ve heard certain things from South Korea.  But we’ll see what happens.  If the meeting happens, it happens.  And if it doesn’t, we go on to the next step.

Q    Is this just a typical thing that North Korea does?  Did you expect this?

PRESIDENT TRUMP:  I don’t know.  I really don’t know.  No, I want to give everybody the benefit of a doubt.  I think that — I can only say our people are literally dealing with them right now, in terms of making arrangements for the meeting.  So that’s a lot different than what you read.  But oftentimes what you read, if it’s not fake news, is true.

So we’ll see what happens.  We are dealing with them now.  We may have the meeting; we may not have the meeting.  If we don’t have it, that will be very interesting.  We’ll see what happens.  The border is still quite strong.  I think things changed a little bit when they met with China.  They met the second time.  As you know, Kim Jong-un had a second meeting with China, which was a little bit of a surprise meeting.

And we have many of the Chinese here today, as you know — big delegations negotiating trade — because the United States has been ripped off for many, many years by its bad trade deals.  I don’t blame China; I blame our leadership of this country from the past.  We have been ripped off by China — an evacuation of wealth like no country has ever seen before given to another country that’s rebuilt itself based on a lot of the money they’ve taken out of the United States.  And that’s not going to happen anymore.

But there has been a big difference since they had the second meeting with President Xi.  With that being said, my attitude is whatever happens, happens.  Either way, we’re going to be in great shape.

Q    Would you consider a personal outreach to Kim to get him moving toward — keep him moving towards —

PRESIDENT TRUMP:  No, we’ll see what happens.  Look, you have to want to do it.  With deals — that’s what I do, is deals.  And with deals you have to have two parties that want to do it.  He absolutely wanted to do it.  Perhaps he doesn’t want to do it.  Perhaps they spoke with China — that could be right — President Xi, a friend of mine, great guy.  But he’s for China, and I’m for the United States.  And that’s the way it is, and I suspect it’s never going to change.

But I will say this: We are continuing to negotiate in terms of location — the location as to where to meet, how to meet, rooms, everything else.  And they’ve been negotiating like nothing happened.  But if you read the newspapers, maybe it won’t happen.  I can’t tell you yet.  I will tell you very shortly.  We’re going to know very soon.

Steve.

Q    Sir, what are you going to tell the Chinese trade official today during these trade talks?

PRESIDENT TRUMP:  Well, I’ve been telling China that we are — you people have been covering trade, and you’ve been covering China, and you’ve been covering everything for a long time.  Have you ever even seen a negotiating in trade?  Nobody has ever seen anybody from our country even negotiate on trade — trade with China and with other countries.  I’m not just blaming China; China is the biggest.  But trade has been a total one-way street.  Right outside of this nation, you take money out like it’s — by the bucket loads, into other — whether it’s the European Union, which you know so well; whether it’s Japan or South Korea, or I can name almost every single country in the world.

We had nobody representing us, and now you have somebody that’s very good at this stuff — me — representing us.  And China has taken out hundreds of billions of dollars a year from the United States.  And I explained to President Xi, we can’t do that anymore.  We just can’t do that anymore.  It’s a much different situation.

But with all the years, and all the years that you’ve covered trade and nations and wars, and everything else, you’ve never seen people come over from China to work on a trade deal.  Now, will that be successful?  I tend to doubt it.  The reason I doubt it is because China has become very spoiled.  The European Union has become very spoiled.  Other countries have become very spoiled because they always got 100 percent of whatever they wanted from the United States.  But we can’t allow that to happen anymore.  We’re an incredible country; we have incredible potential.  The potential we have is incredible.

But we lost $800 billion on trade last year, if you add it all up, of which China was around the $500 billion mark.  So we lost $800 billion.  Can you believe that?  Is that an amazing thing to even think about?  We lost $800 billion on trade.  We’re not going to be doing that any longer.

Q    Just to follow up, sir, what’s happening with ZTE?  Are you going to lift the ban on them?

THE PRESIDENT:  ZTE was a company that I spoke to with President Xi.  He asked me if I’d take a look at that because it was very harmful to them in terms of their jobs and probably other things.  And I certainly said I would.  He asked me to do it, and I would do that.  I would certainly, out of great respect.  I like him; he likes me.  We have a great relationship.  He asked me if I’d look at ZTE.

Don’t forget, it was my administration, with my full knowledge, that put very, very strong clamps on ZTE.  It wasn’t anybody else.  It wasn’t President Obama.  It wasn’t President Bush.  It was me.  I put very strong clamps on ZTE.  They did very bad things to our country.  They did very bad things to our economy.

The one thing I will say: They also buy a large portion of their parts for the phones that they make, and they’re the fourth-largest company in terms of that industry.  They buy those parts from the United States.  That’s a lot of business.  So we have a lot of companies that won’t be selling those parts.

But the President of China, President Xi, asked me to look at it.  I said I would look at it.  But anything we do with ZTE is always — it’s just a small component of the overall deal.

I can only tell you this: We’re going to come out fine with China.  Hopefully China is going to be happy.  I think we will be happy.  And as the expression goes, when you’re losing $500 billion a year on trade, you can’t lose the trade war; you’ve already lost it.  We’ve had horrible representatives in this country that have allowed other countries to get away with murder, and those days are gone.  Those days are over.

So we just want fairness for the workers of this country and for the United States.  That’s what’s going to happen, okay?  I’ll let you know about — as time goes by, we’ll let you know, as of this moment, everything we know.  I mean, North Korea is actually talking to us about times and everything else as though nothing happened.  Will it happen?  Will we be going on that very special date, and can some great things happen?  You know, we’re going to be looking at it very soon.

Yeah, Steve?

Q    They seemed to get annoyed by a comment that Ambassador Bolton made about the Libya model of denuclearization.

THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah.  Well, the Libyan model isn’t a model that we have at all, when we’re thinking of North Korea.  In Libya, we decimated that country.  That country was decimated.  There was no deal to keep Qaddafi.  The Libyan model that was mentioned was a much different deal.  This would be with Kim Jong-un — something where he’d be there, he’d be in his country, he’d be running his country.  His country would be very rich.  His people are tremendously industrious.

If you look at South Korea, this would be, really, a South Korean model in terms of their industry, in terms of what they do.  They’re hardworking, incredible people.

But the Libyan model was a much different model.  We decimated that country.  We never said to Qaddafi, “Oh, we’re going to give you protection.  We’re going give you military strength.  We’re going to give you all of these things.”  We went in and decimated him.  And we did the same thing with Iraq.

Now, whether or not we should have, I could tell you I was against it from the beginning because look what we have right now: We’ve spent $7 trillion — can you believe that — $7 trillion in the Middle East.  Right out the window.  You might as well throw the money right out the window.  And we’ve done a lot of infrastructure.  We just had airports approved.  You saw that.  A lot of things are happening.  But we spent $7 trillion in the Middle East, and look where we are right now.  It’s pretty sad.

But the model, if you look at that model with Qaddafi, that was a total decimation.  We went in there to beat him.  Now that model would take place if we don’t make a deal, most likely.  But if we make a deal, I think Kim Jong-un is going to be very, very happy.  I really believe he’s going to be very happy.

But this is just the opposite.  And I think when John Bolton made that statement, he was talking about if we’re going to be having a problem because we cannot let that country have nukes.  We just can’t do it.  So that’s the way it meant.  It’s really just the opposite.  Because if you — if you look at — again, you look at Syria, that was a total decimation.

Yes, John.

Q    Well, what security guarantees are you willing to give to North Korea, in terms of keeping —

PRESIDENT TRUMP:  Well, I’m willing to do — we’re willing to do a lot.  And he’s willing to, I think, do a lot also.  And I think we’ll actually have a good relationship, assuming we have the meeting, and assuming something comes of it.  And he’ll get protections that would be very strong.

Syria had never had protections.  If you look at Syria, if you look at — or if you look anywhere around the Middle East — you look at Iraq, you look at Libya — with Libya, certainly they didn’t have protection; they had the exact opposite.  That was — that was absolute decimation.  And that’s what we planned to do, and that’s what we did.

Q    Reduce U.S. troop level is a possibility in South Korea?

PRESIDENT TRUMP:  Well, I’m not going to talk about that.  We’re going to say that he will have very adequate protection, and we’ll see how it all turns out.  I think this: The best thing he could ever do is to make a deal.

I have a feeling, however, that, for various reasons, maybe including trade, because they’ve never had this problem before — China has never had this problem with us — it could very well be that he’s influencing Kim Jong-un.  We’ll see what happens, meaning the President of China, President Xi, could be influencing Kim Jong-un.

But we’ll see.  That’s just — look, if you remember, a few weeks ago, all of the sudden, out of nowhere, Kim Jong-un went to China to say hello, again, a second time, to President Xi.  I think they were dedicating an aircraft carrier paid for largely by the United States.

Thank you very much everybody.

Q    A question on NATO.  Will you ask NATO to be — sorry, will you ask NATO to be more involved in the —

PRESIDENT TRUMP:  I can’t hear you.  I can’t.  Can’t hear you.  Thank you everybody.

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2:00 P.M. EDT

During their meeting in Washington, President Trump and NATOSecretary General Stoltenberg recognized the progress the Alliance has made on increased burden sharing and the fight against terrorism. More work is left to do to so that all Allies meet the defense investment pledge made at the 2014 Wales Summit, which will ensure we are able to address global challenges and keep our citizens safe and secure.

“Today, the United States reaffirms our commitment to Article 5 and themutual defense pact. We renew our call on nations to demonstrate their commitment to the Alliance through their actions, including by increasing their defense contributions under the Article 3 requirement for preparedness and military capacity.” – President Trump

Cabinet Room

2:25 P.M. EDT

PRESIDENT TRUMP:  Thank you very much.  And today I’m honored to welcome Secretary General Stoltenberg back to the White House as we prepare for the upcoming NATO Summit in July.  That will be both interesting and exciting.

I’ve had the great pleasure of getting to know Secretary General Stoltenberg over the last year.  We’ve worked very closely together and improved very much, with respect to everybody, the burden sharing.  And we’ve really strengthened NATO and the NATO Alliance.  The strong working partnership we forged has helped to produce significant increases in member-state contributions.  We’ve worked very hard on that.  And I will tell you, the Secretary General has been working on that for a long time, before I got there.  But I think more progress — I can say with surety, more progress has been made in the last year and a half than has been made in many, many years.

We’re delighted to report that last year, as a result of our joint efforts, we witnessed the single-largest increase in defense spending among European member states and Canada in a quarter of a century.  That really is quite a spectacular achievement, so I congratulate you.  I congratulate you very much.

We really have worked in many respects, but that was, I think, a big one.  We had countries that were not paying what they were supposed to be paying.  Now most countries are.  Not all.  And I think you’ll be able to handle the ones that aren’t.  Right?  I have confidence.

This afternoon, I want to thank the seven NATO nations, in addition to the United States, who will meet their 2 percent NATO defense spending.  Now, unfortunately, we pay much more than 2 percent, which is probably unfair, and unfair to the taxpayers of the United States.

But the 2 percent number that’s met is Poland, Romania, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Greece, and the United Kingdom.  And they are right up to snuff.  They paid.  They were on time.  They paid the number that they’re supposed to be paying.  We have some that don’t — and, well, they’ll be dealt with.

As a result of these contributions, NATO is much stronger, taking in billions and billions of dollars — more money than they ever have before.  But as the Secretary General and I have discussed, more work needs to be done.  We’re still waiting on 20 member states to meet their NATO commitments and spend at least 2 percent on defense.  And 2 percent is a very low number.  The number really should be 4 percent.  Two percent is a very low number.

In particular, Germany must demonstrate leadership in the Alliance by addressing its longstanding shortfall in defense contributions.  Germany has not contributed what it should be contributing, and it’s a very big beneficiary — far bigger than the United States, frankly.

In addition to that, as you know, they’re buying massive amounts of gas from Russia and paying billions and billions of dollars.  So I think that’s something we’ll be discussing later and we’ll be discussing that at our meeting, and probably long before the meeting.

We’re going to successfully confront the full range of threats, and we’re going to need every member state to honor its obligation.  So, as we’ve just said, some do and some don’t.

Today, the United States reaffirms our commitment to Article 5 and the mutual defense pact.  We renew our call on nations to demonstrate their commitment to the Alliance through their actions, including by increasing their defense contributions under the Article 3 requirement for preparedness and military capacity.  Have to be prepared.  Never know what’s going to happen.

I’ve also called on NATO to improve its counterterrorism capabilities.  Since the founding of the Alliance, terrorism has claimed more lives in NATO countries than any other security threat.  Think of that.  This was something that years ago wasn’t even a subject.  And I would talk about it all the time on the campaign.  And in all fairness to Secretary General Stoltenberg, he listened to me and they have a great counterterrorism operation.  We appreciate that.

I was therefore glad to see, last May, NATO adopted an Action Plan recommending the Alliance to the fight, and to fight, against terrorism, which is now becoming a fight all over the world, no matter where you go; places that 10 and 20 years ago you wouldn’t have even thought about it.

I also discussed with Secretary General Stoltenberg our commitment to stopping nuclear proliferation, including the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.  We want a future of safety, security, peace for all Koreans and for the entire world.

My administration is also committed to working with our allies to halt Iran’s nuclear ambitions and their destabilizing activities all across the Middle East.  No matter where you go, no matter where there’s a problem, there’s Iran right behind it, and we’re not going to have that any longer.

I’ve said before: Our nations must be strong from within to defend ourselves from threats outside.  The strength of the NATO Alliance does not depend on military might alone, but also the deep ties of history, culture, and tradition that have long united our civilization.  Now, we must renew these ties and rededicate ourselves to our shared heritage.  And in heritage, we want a heritage of peace.  Strength but peace.  Strength but peace.

I want to thank you, Secretary General, for joining us at the White House — it’s a great honor — and for working with us to fortify the NATO Alliance which has proudly stood for seven decades as the bulwark of freedom, security, and prosperity.  Together, we will make NATO and the NATO Alliance stronger.

We need fairness.  We need to be reciprocal.  Countries have to be reciprocal in what we’re doing.  Unfair that some countries pay, and some countries work, and some countries are loyal and terrific, and other countries aren’t.  And we just can’t have that.  So we’re working on that together.

A great honor to be with you.  Thank you very much.

SECRETARY GENERAL STOLTENBERG:  Thank you so much, President, for hosting me and my delegation here at the White House.  It’s great to see you again.  And in uncertain times, we need a strong NATO, so I would also like to thank you for your strong commitment to our alliance.

Last time we met, your main message was that NATO had to do more in the fight against terrorism and more on defense spending.  All NATO leaders agreed and now we are delivering.  We are stepping up our efforts in the fight against terrorism.

In Afghanistan, where we are increasing a number of trainers and to the support for Afghani government, and also in Iraq, where we also plan to launch a new training mission at the summit — at the NATO Summit in July.

On defense spending, I would say that I agree with you.  We have to do more.  And I would like to thank you for your leadership, and it has really impact — it is impacting allies, because all allies are now increasing defense spending; they’re adding billions to their budgets.  So your leadership on defense spending has really helped to make a difference, and that’s something I thank you for.

After years of decline, all allies have started to increase defense spending.  No allies are cutting their budgets anymore.  And more and more allies are at 2 percent of GDP for defense.

But I also agree that we have to do more so allies will continue to work on defense spending because we need to invest more in our security when the world is more unpredictable as it is today.

We also support your efforts to try to find a peaceful and negotiated solution to the crisis on the Korean Peninsula.  The aim should be to denuclearize the Korean Peninsula and to make sure that there are no nuclear weapons there, and also to stop not only the development of nuclear weapons, but also the missile program.

So, therefore, we support the initiative and the work for having a summit.  We think it’s important, also, to make sure that we still have pressure on North Korea, and North Korea has to seize this opportunity — this historic opportunity — to solve the crisis on the Korean Peninsula.

So once again, thank you so much for your strong commitment to our Alliance, and I look forward to continuing our discussion and to address these issues and many others.

PRESIDENT TRUMP:  Thank you very much.  Thank you.

Q    Mr. President, sir, could you clarify the context of your use of the word “animal” yesterday in referring to some people who were (inaudible) —

PRESIDENT TRUMP:  No.  It has nothing to do with this meeting.  But I’m referring — and you know I’m referring — to the MS-13 gangs that are coming in.  And I was talking about the MS-13 and also — and if you look a little bit further on in the tape, you’ll see that.  So I’m actually surprised you’re asking this question because most people got it right.

But I’m saying the MS-13 — you don’t have that where you come from — MS-13, these are animals.  They’re coming into our country and we’re getting them out.  They come in again, we’re getting them out.  We need strong immigration laws.  We have the weakest laws in the entire world.  We have laws that are laughed at on immigration.

So when the MS-13 comes in, when the other gang members come into our country, I refer to them as “animals.”  And guess what?  I always will.  But we’re getting them out by the thousands.  But it’s a big, dangerous job.  And they’re able, in some cases, to come back in or new groups come in also from the gangs.

Thank you.

Q    Mr. President, do you want NATO to play a bigger role in Syria?  Especially that you, sir, announced before that you wanted the U.S. troops to withdraw.  Will NATO take place of the U.S. troops there?

PRESIDENT TRUMP:  Well, I think we helped Syria, actually, by withdrawing from the Iran deal, which was a terrible deal for the United States and, I think, for the world.  And I think Syria — hopefully, Syria will start to stabilize.  You see what’s been happening.  It’s been a horror show.

And I have great respect for Syria and the people of Syria.  These are great people.  I know people from Syria.  These are great people.  It was a great culture before it was so horribly blown apart; a place where people would go, where they had tremendous professional people, as you know — doctors, and lawyers, and it’s — friends of mine from the Middle East that say, “We used to go to Syria.”  That was a place to go, and you look at what’s happened.  It’s so sad.  But I’d like to see Syria come back.  I think we’ve gone a long way to helping it with what we did with respect to the Iran deal.  And you’ll see what I mean by that over time.  A lot of things will happen.

Q    Mr. President, do you have (inaudible).  Norway is the country who hands out the Nobel Peace Prize.  A lot of your supporters says that you deserve a Nobel Peace Prize for what’s happening with North Korea.  What do you think you have to achieve in the upcoming summit to deserve a Nobel Peace Prize?

PRESIDENT TRUMP:  Well, I don’t know.  Look, I want to have peace in the world.  That’s what I really want.  More so than the Nobel Peace Prize or any other prize, I’d like to see peace in the — ideally, in the Middle East — in fact, in the entire world.  And I think we have a chance at doing it.  North Korea is going to be very important.  It’s a tremendous part of the world.  I think it’s got tremendous potential.  I think it’s got tremendous potential for its leader and for its people.  But we’ll see how it all works out.

Right now, we’re dealing with them.  We’re dealing — as I said just a little while ago, we’re dealing as though nothing happened.  They’re dealing with us; we’re dealing with them.  They’re working out times and meeting places and everything.  But in the meantime, if I read your various media, I find — the various media — I find that maybe it’s not going to take place.  If it doesn’t take place, that’s fine.  And if it does take place, I think some tremendous things can happen.  We’ll see what happens.

Q    Do you think it helped your case to pull the U.S. out of the Iran deal, being that countries like Germany, France, and Britain (inaudible)?

PRESIDENT TRUMP:  Yeah, I think it’s a great thing that the U.S. is out of the Iran deal, because it was a ridiculous deal for the U.S. and it’s a ridiculous deal for the world.

Q    Mr. President, the President of the EU said yesterday, about you, “With friends like that, who needs enemies?”  How do you respond to —

PRESIDENT TRUMP:  Well, I could reverse that.  Look, the European Union has been terrible to the United States on trade.  They’ve been terrible to our workers.  The European Union — last year, we had a trade deficit of $151 billion.  And I know Jean-Claude very well and I know Donald very well.  And I like them both, but they’re very tough.  And we never had anybody negotiating for us.

And frankly, the European Union — outside of China and a couple of others — treats us, on trade, as badly as you can be treated.  They have trade barriers.  Our farmers aren’t allowed, to a large extent, to sell their product into the European Union.

It’s very hard for us to sell our cars into the European Union.  But the European Union — in this case, Germany — has its Mercedes and its BMWs and its cars pouring into the United States with no barriers.  They pay a tiny tax, whereas the European Union charges a massive tax and doesn’t even want the tax.  They don’t want the cars; they don’t want the product.

So we lost $151 billion last year dealing with the European Union.  So they can call me all sorts of names.  And if I were them, I’d call me names also, because it’s not going to happen any longer.

Thank you very much, everybody.  Thank you.  Thank you.

PRESIDENT TRUMP:  Say hello to Jean-Claude, please.  (Laughter.)

Q    I will.

Q    On the Iran sanctions, any comment on that?

PRESIDENT TRUMP:  They’ll be very massive.  They’re going to be massive.  The Iran sanctions will be massive.  Thank you.

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